Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 17:25:04 -0400
From: "Dennis R. Preston" preston[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]PILOT.MSU.EDU
Subject: Re: kimmelwick
Surely this is not a mysterious process (particualrly when a foreign word
is involved). To doubt it would be to suggest that the etymology of
Coca-Cola is suopect since there is no longer any coke (cocaine) in Coke.
Now Coke (at least in Louisville) doesn't even have to be 'cola.' Even
7-Up is a kind of 'coke.'
By the way, my experience in W. New York suggests that 'hard roll' or 'bun'
(even without salt, not to mention caraway) could be offered in 'Beef on
Dennis (who prefers hot wings to wicks from the Buffalo kitchen).
DARE, vol. III, which should be available in your local bookstores in
December, just in time for Christmas buying (plug, plug), has an entry under
'kimmelweck' (with a x-ref to 'beef on weck' vol. I). Defined as "A caraway
roll, used esp for a beef sandwich," its label is wNY, esp Buffalo. The
earliest quote is from 1952, Marian Tracy, Coast to Coast Cookery.
ok, but i think today that the salt is the defining characteristic,
since we go to the bakery and order "kimmelwecks without caraway" and
get rolls with salt on top. i didn't know that kimmelwecks could
have caraway until wegman's started selling them, since the bakery we
got them from in lewiston had ones w/o caraway called "kimmelweck".
Dennis R. Preston
Department of Linguistics and Languages
Michigan State University
East Lansing MI 48824-1027 USA
preston[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]pilot.msu.edu