Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 13:21:23 -0600
From: Luanne von Schneidemesser lvonschn[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]FACSTAFF.WISC.EDU
Subject: Re: kimmelwick
In message Sun, 1 Sep 1996 21:51:14 -0500,
"Joseph C. Salmons" jsalmons[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]FACSTAFF.WISC.EDU writes:
Yes, it is, but the southern/central dialects where 'Weck' would be
used are generally unrounding. We don't even necessarily have to look
to Pennsylvania German on this one, since similar German borrowings
for cultural items abound across so much of the country. On the other
hand, 'Weck' does occur in the west middle/SW German dialect areas
that PaGm has grown from.
Luanne von Schneidemesser has done lots of really good and interesting
work on such German loans in American English and maybe she knows the
details of this item.
Eichhoff in his "Wortatlas der deutschen Umgangsprachen" shows 'Weck' to
be in use in southwest Germany, and well up into Hesse. I remember older
people in Giessen (north of Frankfurt) using the term when I was doing
my dissertation fieldwork. And yes, as Larry mentioned, kimmel comes from
German 'Ku"mmel' meaning caraway.
DARE, vol. III, which should be available in your local bookstores in
December, just in time for Christmas buying (plug, plug), has an entry under
'kimmelweck' (with a x-ref to 'beef on weck' vol. I). Defined as "A caraway
roll, used esp for a beef sandwich," its label is wNY, esp Buffalo. The
earliest quote is from 1952, Marian Tracy, Coast to Coast Cookery.
Luanne von Schneidemesser
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