Date: Wed, 13 Sep 1995 15:55:46 MST
From: Tom Uharriet UTOM[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]ADMN.712.NEBO.EDU
Subject: Re: FOR English Only
Gregory J. Pulliam writes:
Why have you STILL not responded to Terry's points?
I have responded to many of Terry's points. I never attempted to
respond to everything Terry said. Though I am flattered that you
would want me to. Some of those "points" were simply too absurd to
deserve a response. Others didn't elicit a response because I agreed
with them and had nothing to add. In spite of Terry's harsh words
toward me, not everything in those messages was emotional dribble. A
lot of it was valid. I have never intentionally given the message
that this issue is entirely a black and white one. There are good
reasons on both sides. Both sides have poor ones too. I have not
always favored EOL. I still have many reasons for opposing it. I
have not argued that way because the reasons I have for supporting it
weigh heavier in me than my reasons against it. Most of us ADS-L
subcribers would weigh it heavier the other way. That's okay. I do
appreciate the messages, open and private, that have been supportive.
But it's been fun going the rounds with the rest of you too.
Why are you so eager
to latch on to her anger . . . ?
His "anger" was hard to resist. Being told to get the F*** off the
network caught my attention--as he intended. I don't recommend this
method, but it did work for him.
Most of us celebrate diversity,
Good! I certainly do. That's why in spite of my EOL position, I
would feel a loss to our country if we ever lost Chinatown and the
many other non-English communities. Our nation is much richer
because of them. Of course, well written EOL would not hinder
preserving those centers of ethnic variety. It merely gives those
people added incentive to aquire English as a second or third
language. Even if they knew English (as many of them already do),
they would still be who they are. But this leads us back to what I
have already explained.
to come online and start talking about "national unity" and other
such notions is by nature inflammatory.
You missed the point completely. To the extent that we truly do
celebrate our diversity, we are united. I do not suggest that anyone
loses his/her native language. I do, however, believe that everyone
can benefit by learning a second language. For those whose native
tongue is English, I cannot recommend any particular language over
any other. Again, the more variety the better. But for those who do
not speak English, who live in most parts of the world, I certainly
recommend that they learn English. It is rapidly becoming the
international language of commerce and technology. In our country,
if they do not understand English, with or without EOL, they are
missing out on too much of what this nation has to offer.
There are forums for people interested in language issues in
general to exchange ideas.
Yes, that's why I'm in this circle. Until last month, I have not
contributed very often because my views did not differ enough to
really contribute much. I did not subscribe for political reasons.
If my views radically oppose yours, you are welcome. I'm glad I
could stimulate some thought in you.
If your intention is to tell the network that you support Terry's
messages, so be it. So do I in a large measure. Some of our
exchanges have been too hostile for this forum. But at the heart of
it all, we are not far apart. His professional background in
language far surpasses my own. He has my respect. I am glad that he
has yours as well. Whether we agree with his position or not,
whether we agree with his tactics or not, whether we've been
comfortable with his messages or not, he has done a lot to stir some
thought on this issue. With his background and his zeal, he has a
lot to add to this group. He and I have communicated outside of this
forum; and he really is a decent guy. Thanks anyway, but you really
don't need to excuse, explain, or defend his words. We both enjoy a
good argument now and then. This issue gave us that opprotunity.
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