Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 22:45:46 -0400 From: "William H. Smith" Subject: Re: If I was During the thread on the subjunctive, Stephen Straight wrote "If I would have been more careful,...I wouldn't have muddied the waters..." I take those _would's_ to be subjunctive on the grounds that it is an apparent past tense form used with present tense meaning, but that is only my guess. Can anyone confirm or disconfirm this on historical grounds? If it is subjunctive, it is a (fairly common) substitution on one subjunctive construction for another. Bill Smith Piedmont College