Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 22:02:21 -0400 From: "William H. Smith" Subject: as it were I have read have a dozen postings saying that the subjunctive does/doesn't exist, on the evidence of "If I was.." The anti's say that the subjunctive has given way to the indicative past, but no one has noted that "If I was/were..." is not past, it is present: "If I were now as I once was..." If the subjunctive _were_ dead, we would say, "If I am..." Bill Smith Piedmont College