End of ADS-L Digest - 18 Oct 1994 to 19 Oct 1994 ************************************************ There are 21 messages totalling 601 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. names question (5) 2. Afro-Seminole 3. offending idiot (3) 4. Bounced Mail (2) 5. offending idioms (5) 6. Recognize these sayings? 7. Forty-eleven 8. Animal Gender, Again 9. Naming after Presidents 10. Net Gremlins at UGA ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 22:43:12 -0700 From: "CAVEMAN -- San Bernardino, Calif. USA" Subject: Re: names question > Does anyone know when it stopped being common to name American male > children after incumbent Presidents? (Not just the first name, but also > the President's surname as a middle name.) > > Dan Goodman dsg[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]maroon.tc.umn.edu I don't know about incumbent presidents, but my grandfather (b. 1905) was named Andrew Jackson Coker -- after the president. My father (b. 1936) was named Gerald Jackson Coker; the Jackson name was kept, but Gerald was substituted for Andrew. (I (b. 1959) am Charles Jackson Coker). My grandmother was fiercely politcal, so a presidential name would not have surprised me. However, naming after presidents may have stopped being common by 1936; maybe my grandparents just simply didn't like a presidential name; or maybe, since my grandfather married a Cherokee woman, and Andrew Jackson was arguably the most anti-Indian president in US history (especially anti-Cherokee, among others), my grandmother found the name Andrew Jackson offensive. (I find it ironic that *ANDREW JACKSON* married a Cherokee woman.) This probably doesn't answer your question, but I have been curious about naming practices also. (You should see my youngest daughter's Social Security card; it says: Galiquoginei Unvquola -- seems Social Security can only handle 21 letters. Her full first name is Galiquoginei Unvquolatvi (Cherokee = Seventh Rainbow) after my grandmother. Pronounce vowels like in Spanish, v like u in but.) I'd like to see more on the list about naming practices, also. Hello out there, Chuck Coker CJCoker[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]CSUPomona.Edu =============================================================================== There have been no dragons in my life, only small spiders and stepping in gum. I could have coped with the dragons. Anonymous (but wise) ===============================================================================