Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 17:27:01 -0400
From: "Dennis R. Preston" preston[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]PILOT.MSU.EDU
Subject: Re: Stoled
Well, shucks, Jason, see us Mid-southerners and Midwesterners, we jist
don't understand East Coast logic. See, we got us a whole passel of them
redundants that I guess y'all don't have. Why, we even say 'felt' for the
preterite of 'feel' (which has already got a vowel-stem change so shouldn't
need no dental preterite marker). Reckon we're so slow out here though that
we'll hang on to them redundancies (particularly since it seems to be a
predictable and necessary feature of natural language). By the way, us
Hungarians (farther East than y'all) find phrases like 'two houses' or
'three chickens' pretty silly too. Redundant as all hell. Why put a plural
marker on a noun with a number sittin' out thar in front of it?
Oh, by the way, I'm right about 'vocalization.' It means 'gets to look like
a vowel' (or 'stops being a consonant'). I guess this was misunderstood as
'is pronounced.' If you want fancier words for the 'disappearances' of
nonprevocalic /r/ and /l/ in Southern States English, you caould go for /r/
'desulcalization' and /l/ 'delateralization,' but them's mighty biguns.
I don't understand (but I don't necessarily object to) the use of
"stoled." The -ed seems redundant. One already has the past in "stole."
Why add the same sense again with "-ed?" This is about as comprehensible to
my East Coast sensiblities as "roded"would be for the past tense of "ride."
. (An aside: I'm from near Baltimore, MD. Having a large number of American
dialects is a beautiful thing. That doesn't make the Baltimore accent any
less ugly.) I suppose it makes sense if one drops the L. BTW, "l-vocalizer."
seems to be used in two different senses. Which is correct?
jasonk[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]mail.sjcsf.edu
I first encountered a problem with this word earlier in the year
when I tried to spell it and realized, looking at it, that it was not a
word. I continue
to use it, however. I like it.
Dennis R. Preston
Department of Linguistics and Languages
Michigan State University
East Lansing MI 48824-1027 USA
preston[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]pilot.msu.edu