Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 09:07:00 -0700


Subject: input to discussions

Here is a compilation of the various comments I sent in that didn't get


Re: Stove/Range

To me, a stove and a range are the same thing, but I use the term "stove."

I was brought up in Utah but lived most recently in Georgia. Most members of

my family now live in Georgia, but I would think it strange to hear one of

them use the term "range" in ordinary conversation.

I have just discussed the terms "stove" and "range" with a colleague who was

born in Kansas and grew up there. He says that they had no electricity or

running water when he was growing up, but they had both a stove and a range

(both wood-fueled). He says that the stove was for heating and the range was

for cooking and was sometimes referred to as a "cooking range."

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Re: Ice box/Refrigerator, etc.

I was having a discussion about "ice box" last night. It seemed to follow

normally on the heels of "stove" vs. "range" (perhaps because they're both

kitchen appliances).

I used the term "ice box" growing up but use "refrigerator" now. I remember

friends of mine when I was growing up used the term "fridge" but we never


My colleague who grew up in Kansas without electricity and running water also

uses the term "ice box" but then he grew up with a real ICE BOX and not an

electric refrigerator.

I'm interested to know about the distinction between "closet" and "cupboard."

I can keep my clothes in either the closet or the cupboard--the terms are

interchangeable in that sense. But I would never put dishes in a "closet."

My husband gets very upset when I use "cupboard" for "closet" because the

terms are not interchangeable for him at all.


Re: String Beans/Green Beans

My maternal grandmother, mother, and I were all born in Salt Lake City. My

grandmother and mother both seemed to use "string bean" and "green bean"

interchangeably when I was growing up. I remember that it caused me a lot of

confusion because I never could figure out what the difference was.

I never use the term "string bean" and I don't think I've even heard it used

for quite awhile.


Re: Unexcused Absences

Growing up in Utah, we used the term to "slough school" when we were cutting

classes (that's "slough" that rhymes with "enough").


Re: Pronunciation by Newscasters

One of my favorites from a CNN weather person was the pronunciation of

achipelago like someone's name: Archie PelAgo.


Re: Johnny at the Rathole

I have asked my Irish colleagues about this and none of them have heard it.

One of my English colleagues, however, said that he had heard it but didn't

know what it meant.


Re: Today I have to do the . . . .

"Today I have to do the laundry."


Re: Pop/Soda

We never said "pop" or "soda" for soft drinks, although I had friends who


We always used the name of the product or substance: "coke" for Coke,

"seven-up" for Seven-Up, "root beer," etc.

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Kathleen Sheridan


International Service for National

Agricultural Research (ISNAR)

The Hague, The Netherlands

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