Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 11:16:16 EDT
From: Undetermined origin c/o LISTSERV maintainer
owner-LISTSERV[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]UGA.CC.UGA.EDU
Subject: Re: icebox and upstate
I'm tempted to say that upstate begins where the commuter rail service
ends, which I think at the moment means Brewster or thereabouts.
(I'm a Manhattan resident and grew up in Queens.) Commuter rail in this
case is standing in for a feeling that "upstate" is that part of the
state that is not closely connected to the New York City economy, in
particular where few if any people work in the city or come down here
regularly to shop (as distinct from the occasional trip to see a show,
visit people, or even once-a-year holiday shopping). But I also suspect
that "upstate" for this purpose is farther out than the edge of the
New York City dialect area.
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New York, NY