Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 10:43:28 -0500
From: Lewis Sanborne lsanbore[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]SAUNIX.SAU.EDU
Subject: Re: born in a barn
Joan Livingston commented
In my childhood home, "born in a barn" referred exclusively
to someone who didn't close an outside door behind them. For
table manners, there was a verse, "Mabel, mabel strong and able
Get your elbows off the table."
These were the phrases and meanings in our family as well in the 60s. My
father was raised in upstate NY and my mother in Brooklyn. We replaced
Mabel with the name of the appropriate sibling, and were occassionaly bold
enough to insert father. Mom NEVER put her elbows on the table.
My sense is that being brought up right
had as much or more to do with manners as with ethics and morals
(e.g. being honest, loyal, etc).
My experience matches Joan's here as well. My parents still seem more
concerned with the surface manifestations of manners than with broader
ethical issues. Manners, or their absence, are easier to identify and
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