Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 22:43:12 -0700

From: "CAVEMAN -- San Bernardino, Calif. USA" cjcoker[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]CSUPOMONA.EDU

Subject: Re: names question

Does anyone know when it stopped being common to name American male

children after incumbent Presidents? (Not just the first name, but also

the President's surname as a middle name.)

Dan Goodman dsg[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]

I don't know about incumbent presidents, but my grandfather (b. 1905) was

named Andrew Jackson Coker -- after the president. My father (b. 1936)

was named Gerald Jackson Coker; the Jackson name was kept, but Gerald was

substituted for Andrew. (I (b. 1959) am Charles Jackson Coker). My

grandmother was fiercely politcal, so a presidential name would not have

surprised me. However, naming after presidents may have stopped being common

by 1936; maybe my grandparents just simply didn't like a presidential name;

or maybe, since my grandfather married a Cherokee woman, and Andrew Jackson

was arguably the most anti-Indian president in US history (especially

anti-Cherokee, among others), my grandmother found the name Andrew Jackson

offensive. (I find it ironic that *ANDREW JACKSON* married a Cherokee


This probably doesn't answer your question, but I have been curious about

naming practices also. (You should see my youngest daughter's Social Security

card; it says: Galiquoginei Unvquola -- seems Social Security can only handle

21 letters. Her full first name is Galiquoginei Unvquolatvi (Cherokee =

Seventh Rainbow) after my grandmother. Pronounce vowels like in Spanish, v

like u in but.)

I'd like to see more on the list about naming practices, also.

Hello out there,

Chuck Coker



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