Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 09:17:16 CST
From: salikoko mufwene mufw[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject: Re: -"had" Constructions
In Message Wed, 12 Oct 1994 02:07:30 CDT,
"Donald M. Lance" ENGDL%MIZZOU1[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]uicvm.uic.edu writes:
On a comparative/contrastive note, the discussed of these 'have' constructions
reminds me that 'be' and 'have'='own' use the same word in, I think, Swahili,
with sort of a dative construction in the latter use.
In Lingala and Kikongo-Kituba, two languages I speak, the closest analog
is combining the verb COME with the applicative suffix. The latter is used
for benefactive as well as malefactive constructions. In cases more
specific than 'occur', diverse verb bases may combine with the applicative.
For instance, a car owner may complain that his/her child ruined their car
'on them'(?), or that a wreckless driver killed a pedestrian 'on them'(?),
etc. These are kinds of statements where the speaker suggests that somebody
other than the agent is victimized by the agent's action.
Salikoko S. Mufwene
University of Chicago
Dept. of Linguistics
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Chicago, IL 60637
s-mufwene[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]uchicago.edu
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