Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 22:12:01 +0000 From: Duane Campbell Subject: Re: "Ich bin ein Berliner" At 04:25 PM 11/28/97 -0500, you wrote: >When I was in Austria studying German, my teacher told us that the word >"Berliner" does indeed refer to a jelly doughnut in some areas (every >little district seems to have different words for pastries). As I recall from several years of living in Germany and being conversant, though not native fluent, in German, to say that you were a citizen of a certain place, one (sorry) would say, Ich bin Berliner (or W=FCrzburger, in my case). Adding the indefinite article solidifies the doughnut connotation. I was there for the City Hall speech, and as I recall there was talk at that time of the gaffe amongst Germans. But I could be misrecollecting. At that distance one (oops, sorry again) tends to remember what one wants to be true. Similarly scholarly discussion is not devoid of political= influence. Duane Campbell dcamp[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]