Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 20:54:54 -0500 From: Jim Crotty Subject: Re: stay and live In a message dated 11/15/97 2:54:12 PM, you wrote: << On 'cop': I always heard it came from "civilian on patrol" (Brit., something like a neighborhood crime watch?). Is this completely apocryphal? To assume 'cop' comes from 'catch' seems farfetched; but I suppose we should check our Old and Middle English dictionaries. On "cop a plea": As I recall, Roger Abrahams traced this in the 70s to Black English street plea-bargaining, but I haven't got my citation handy.>> Whether apocryphal or not I do like "civilian on patrol." Gives me a much warmer feeling about coppers.