Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 18:41:42 -0500 From: Grant Barrett Subject: RE>Re: Is "quit, quit now" a catchphrase? I think Bevery's on the right track. I bet it comes from a movie, although it is a common structure. I have small collection of English throwaway phrases from non-English speaking countries and the biggest sources are movies and music, in that order. There's a scene in Die Hard where a public utility worker is told by the FBI to shut off a certain part of the power grid. The worker says to someone on the other end of the phone, "Shut it down. Shut it down now!" In Independence Day, that derivative masterpiece and the answer to every action fan who has ever said "Why didn't they...?", there is a scene where Bill Pulliam says something like, "Nuke 'em. Nuke 'em all." -- Footnote, tangent, what-have-you: A good Patton-like speeche is ruined in the movie Independence Day and it seems like I'm always flipping past HBO when the scene is showing. A hodge-podge (or hotch-potch, depending which side of the road you drive on) of volunteer pilots is preparing to take flight and attack the invading aliens in the Nevada desert. Bill Pulliam, as President Whitmore, gives the off-to-battle speech: Good morning. In less than an hour, aircraft from here will join others from around the world, and you will be launching the largest aerial battle in the history of mankind. "Mankind"... that word should have a new meaning for all of us today. We can't be consumed by our petty differences anymore. We will be united in our common interest. Perhaps it's fate that today is the Fourth of July, and you will once again be fighting for our freedom. Not from tyranny, oppression, or persecution, but from annihilation. We're fighting for our right to live, to exist. And should we win the day, the Fourth of July will no longer be known as an American holiday, but as the day when the world declared in one voice, "We will not go quietly into the night,we will not vanish without a fight... We're going to live on! We're going to survive! Today, we celebrate our Independence Day!" You know what urks me? It's that very last word. It sounds repetitive, redundant, incongruous, superfluous, etc. If you get a chance, look for the scene. It's a little more than three-quarters of the way through the movie. Grant Barrett gbarrett[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]