Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 22:41:32 +0000 From: Lynne Murphy Subject: Re: "Ebonics" for "AAVE"? Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > > On a non-linguistics list, i just read the ff. query, apparently > straight-forward: > > ---- > Subject: Re: creole languages or AAVE in linguistic evidence (criminal) > > I'm not acquainted with the term African American Vernacular Language. > Is it related in any way to Ebonics? > ---- i told my students that grown-ups call "ebonics" "AAVE" (ok, i wasn't quite that disparaging to the word, but my students tend to hear "ebonics" and think "stupid p.c. garbage", so i like to encourage a name with a little more scientific and less political baggage). so, one of my students went to the texas tesol conference in austin last weekend and tried to speak with the professionals about "AAVE", and got blank stares in return, until her interlocutors caught on and said "oh, you mean ebonics!" i think that'll keep me out of the teacher hall of fame. lynne p.s. beth simon, are you out there on this list? all my responses to your teach-ling request got bounced back (teach-ling has my address wrong and won't let me post because of it). if you've not gotten a message from me about lex readings, drop me a line so i can use the reply function. -- M. Lynne Murphy Assistant Professor in Linguistics Department of English Baylor University PO Box 97404 Waco, TX 76798