End of ADS-L Digest - 25 Nov 1995 to 26 Nov 1995 ************************************************ There are 10 messages totalling 245 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. toboggan 2. The Automat 3. Zero or "o"? (6) 4. Separate dialects? 5. /w/ and /hw/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 08:27:32 -0500 From: "Dennis R. Preston" Subject: Re: toboggan Jim Stalker is right on about the 'tobaggon' business in KY (at least Louisville area). I'm not sure if my use was idiosyncratic, but for me (growing up in the same place at roughly the same time), a 'tobaggon' additionally required an elongated top, with, perhaps, the prototypical form having a fuzzy ball on the end. I had no term for 'knit cap' till I was blown north in the 60's. Perhaps we had names for only the cartoonish forms of this outerwear down in Louisville since, unlike here in East Lansing, we didn't need the damn things so often Dennis 'Cold-ears' Preston >> >> Students from Toledo OH and Michiganders use this term for a knit cap. >> >Not Michiganders from the East Lansing area. I grew up in KY in the 50s using >this term as the usual name for a knit cap (a term I never used until I lived >in Michigan). I check the term regularly with my students, and none have ever >heard it in the meaning 'knit cap,' only as a sled. The OED gives tobaggon >cap >as US, with earliest example >from , V, 152, and two other examples, one from the Spectator> and one from the . > >JCStalker >stalker[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]pilot.msu.edu