Date: Sat, 5 Nov 1994 02:00:00 LCL From: "M. Lynne Murphy" <104LYN[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]MUSE.ARTS.WITS.AC.ZA> Subject: Re: new york city and upstate > we're "New Yorkers" (specifying that we're from "New York > City" or "the City" [and yes, I'm aware of the arrogance > of that one] if appropriate) or "Long Islanders. > "the city" is definitely area-specific, though. just as donald lance said "the city" is st. louis (wasn't that it?) in newark, NY, where i grew up (it's NOWHERE NEAR new jersey!), "the city" is rochester--(as in "i'm working in the city now") even though we're about equidistant from rochester and syracuse. lynne ______________________________________________________________________ M. Lynne Murphy e-mail: 104lyn[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE] Lecturer, Dept. of Linguistics phone: 27(11)716-2340 University of the Witwatersrand fax: 27(11)716-8030 Johannesburg 2050 South Africa "Language without meaning is meaningless." --Roman Jakobson