Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 17:37:46 -0800 From: Donald Livingston Subject: Re: Half Past the Hour For my idiolect, "It's a quarter of four" unambiguously means 3:45. Three variations sound fine: quarter of/to/till four. What's odd is that although "quarter till four" sounds fine, "quarter until four" sounds silly to me. Usage gets strange. "Half past midnight" and "half past noon" sound fine. But "It's a quarter after midnight/noon" sounds funny. As Emily Litella said, "It's always something." All the best, D. Livingston.