Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1993 14:30:37 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor Subject: Re: Mail Order / Pin-Pen / LAGS > (and /hw/-users), I was distressed to find both /en/ and /hw/ creeping into > my speech unbidden. It really took some effort to repress them. The latter > tends to recur whenever I am doing phonology in an English linguistic class, > and model the : contrast. As an interesting indication that Odd though it may be, I've always had /hw/. But I've certainly never had the /En/:/In/ contrast -- or at least not until these very recent vocalic oddities I've noticed. I think I've probably told before about how for several years when I first started teaching linguistics courses I gave "then" and "thin" as a useful minimal pair in helping the students hear voiced/voiceless th. Suddenly it dawned on me one day that that wouldn't work for everybody -- although it did, of course, work for most of my students. --Natalie (maynor[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]