Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 18:33:57 -0800
From: Birrell Walsh birrell[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]WELL.SF.CA.US
Subject: Re: 'the' in place names (Kaye)
On Wed, 30 Nov 1994, Scott Schwenter wrote:
....San Francisco neighborhoods.
The Western Addition
Bayview and the Bayview are both heard,
as are South of Market and the South of Market. The former is older;
when it was a largely Irish neighborhood it was called South of the Slot
because there was a cable-car (with a slot to grip the cable) running on
Aren't these differences due to the fact that those that take 'the' (except
for 'The Western Addition') are shortened from a longer NP 'The X
District'? On the other hand, the non 'the'-taking neighborhoods don't take
'District' : *'The Japantown District'.
On local TV newscasts (e.g. KGO), those that take the article are always
either 'The X District' or 'San Francisco's X District'
In many cases, the "the" forms ARE shortened NP's, with the flonger form
being "the X district." "The Western Addition" is itself an NP.
Interesting it is to note that Japantown and Chinatown are NP's in the
languages of the immigrants (Nihonmachi, Wa Faau) but not in English.
Nice discerning, Scott.