Date: Sun, 20 Nov 1994 00:29:39 EST


Subject: Re: "ride the rodeo"

In response to two points raised by Beth Simon:

1) Whether or not Judy Collins sings (as Beth claims)

When he comes to call, my pa ain't got a good word to say,

Guess it's cause he's just as wild as in his younger days,

I wouldn't have so processed it because it's totally uninterpretable in this

context, given that the he/his of the second line would have to be

non-coreferential, which they really can't be ("You're just as wild as in my

younger days"?)

2) I too have heard shtr- quite a bit in the New York area, and concurred

with someone on some e-list (I thought it was ours, a few months ago, but

maybe it was Linguist) that it's especially associated with Italian-Americans

born in the 1950's (my citation was Mike Francesa on WFAN sports talk radio,

along with others I now forget).