Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 07:23:43 -0500 From: "Dennis R. Preston" Subject: Re: "cobbed" etc. Ron is right. I overlooked the ambiguity of 'cobbed' and 'reamed.' They may, in my usage as well, mean 'beat to a pulp' (as 'screwed' may not). I find, however, that the 'beat to a pulp' meanings for me are usually transitive ('Texas reamed Michigan') and the 'cheated' meanings are often passive (especially with the 'get' passive it seems) ('Michigan got reamed'). I also think Seth is wrong about the 'cream' - 'cremate' realtionship. I always assumed that 'creamed' meant 'beaten' (which is what you used to do to get cream before Fizzy Crap or whatever it's called was produced in aerosol cans). (I actually tasted some once -- UGH!!!) Dennis PS: Us Spartans are always happy to see Michigan cramed, reamed, cobbed, and screwed. Way to hook 'em horns! >Ron Butters wrote: > >>I think Dennis and Seth are absolutely right about the connection of >>COBBED with "CORNHOLE". However, it is the case that COBBED and REAMED >>are a little different in semantic range from SCREWED--COBBED and REAMED >>can (for me) mean simply 'defeated badly': Duke was recently >>REAMED/COBBED (cf. CREAMED) by EMU at basketball, but they were not SCREWED. >> > >I've always presumed creamed was short for cremated. > >Seth Dennis R. Preston Department of Linguistics and Languages Michigan State University East Lansing MI 48824-1027 USA preston[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE] Office: (517)432-1235 Fax: (517)432-2736