Date: Wed, 30 Mar 1994 09:40:41 -0500 From: "William A. Kretzschmar, Jr." Subject: SWINE and cetera On Tue, 29 Mar 1994 mftcf[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]UXA.ECN.BGU.EDU wrote: > Raven also used to tell the story of going to the University of Michigan > and runn9i8ng afoul of a SWINEr who insisted that he (Raven) needed speech > remediation. And I think he said the same thing happened to Bob Van Riper. > Am I keeping my anecdotes straight? > > Tim Frazer > I remember Raven talking about C. K. Thomas being subjected to remedial speech class after having moved from Oklahoma to Michigan. The reason Raven originally went to the Linguistic Institute in 1937 in Ann Arbor was that his commandant at the Citadel (I don't know the SWINEosity of the commandant) thought Raven needed remedial training in elocution; once he got there Bernard Bloch picked Raven as a sample informant to demonstrate transcription in an Atlas interview (which demonstrates Raven's non-SWINEosity), and the rest is history. For those of you who have the LAMSAS Handbook, you might just look for the one interview by Bernard Bloch among the Atlas records, including a rather full biog. Having been brought up with SWINE, both in actuality in Milwaukee and in acronymity in Chicago, I can find nothing objectionable about the term. My Georgia students usu. find my Wisconsin monophthongs amusing when we talk about my pronunciation in class, but many of them also testify to their experiences with swinish SWINErs (they usu. just call them Yankees) who have mocked or otherwise denigrated their Southern accents. ****************************************************************************** Bill Kretzschmar Phone: 706-542-2246 Dept. of English FAX: 706-542-2181 University of Georgia Internet: billk[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE] Athens, GA 30602-6205 Bitnet: wakjengl[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]uga