Date:  Wed, 30 Mar 1994 09:40:41 -0500

From:  "William A. Kretzschmar, Jr." <billk[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]ATLAS.UGA.EDU>

Subject: SWINE and cetera



On Tue, 29 Mar 1994 mftcf[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]UXA.ECN.BGU.EDU wrote:



> Raven also used to tell the story of going to the University of Michigan

> and runn9i8ng afoul of a SWINEr who insisted that he (Raven) needed speech

> remediation. And I think he said the same thing happened to Bob Van Riper.

> Am I keeping my anecdotes straight?

>

> Tim Frazer

>

I remember Raven talking about C. K. Thomas being subjected to remedial

speech class after having moved from Oklahoma to Michigan. The reason

Raven originally went to the Linguistic Institute in 1937 in Ann Arbor

was that his commandant at the Citadel (I don't know the SWINEosity of

the commandant) thought Raven needed remedial training in elocution;

once he got there Bernard Bloch picked Raven as a sample informant to

demonstrate transcription in an Atlas interview (which demonstrates

Raven's non-SWINEosity), and the rest is history. For those of you who

have the LAMSAS Handbook, you might just look for the one interview by

Bernard Bloch among the Atlas records, including a rather full biog.



Having been brought up with SWINE, both in actuality in Milwaukee and in

acronymity in Chicago, I can find nothing objectionable about the term.

My Georgia students usu. find my Wisconsin monophthongs amusing when we

talk about my pronunciation in class, but many of them also testify to

their experiences with swinish SWINErs (they usu. just call them Yankees)

who have mocked or otherwise denigrated their Southern accents.



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