Date: Sat, 5 Mar 1994 16:13:56 CST From: "Donald M. Lance" Subject: Re: /lIngwIstIks/ I've had a couple of students, both from cental Missouri, who do not have a final velar nasal. [kin] = 'king' or 'keen' and [kIn] = 'kin' These were graduate students who understood and liked phonetics, and I observed their speech closely. One was an advisee whom I saw often, and I noted the [-in] pronunciation of '-ing' in conversation. DMLance