Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:04:52 -0500
From: Gregory {Greg} Downing downingg[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]IS2.NYU.EDU
Subject: Re: standardization of non-standard forms

At 01:25 PM 3/11/98 -0500, you wrote:
Another pretty common misunderstanding is the use of "jive" where "jibe" =
technically correct, as in:

Their view on the issue and mine do not jibe....

Frank Abate
OUP US Dictionaries

Yes, this one is pretty common.

I was staying off this thread because my sense was that the original
enquirer was looking for nonstandardisms that had become standardized in
some regional dialect, and I wasn't sure about regional distributions. If
regional distributions are not an issue, don't forget (among many others):

"I could care less" (where what is meant is "I couldn't care less")

"irregardless" (my college roommate used it on a history exam, his major
field, and got called on it by the grader)

Perhaps these kinds of examples are idiolectic, and created independently by
various individual speakers, as was discussed earlier on this thread. But
they are so common that some people must pick them up from other people,
which pushes them beyond the realm of idiolect. I recall that my roommate
did some research on "irregardless" after being called on it, and several
dictionaries mentioned the word but called it nonstandard and illogical, or
else humorous. If dictionaries feel compelled to mention a usage, it would
seem to have transcended the stage of independent idiolectic innovation.

Greg Downing/NYU, at greg.downing[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE] or downingg[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]