[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE][AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]|Bryan Gick Department of Linguistics

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Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 12:23:13 +0000

From: Aaron Drews aaron[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]LING.ED.AC.UK

Subject: It's



On Mon, 3 Mar 1997, Michael Montgomery wrote:



}Dear ADSers:

}

}Has anyone ever collected undergraduate malapropisms on grammar tests?

}Here's an example to add to the list, from a mid-term exam taken last

}week:

}

} "_It's_ is a contraption of _it_ and _is_."

}

}Indeed! What other contraptions are our students learning about in our

}courses??



Well, I went to a Catholic university, so we didn't learn much

about contraptions in class. :)

--Aaron

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Supervised Postgraduate Student http://www.ling.ed.ac.uk/~aaron

The University of Edinburgh +44 (0)131 650-3485

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Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 08:34:40 +0000

From: "E.W. Gilman" egilman[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]WEBSTER.M-W.COM

Subject: contraption/contraction



For those who find the above to be a surprising lapsus calami, I

offer the following version of _contraction_ that I just found in my

files:



SMERSH is a contradiction of 'Smiert Spionam'...--beginning of

chapter 4 of Ian Fleming's "From Russia with Love", some unidentified

paperback edition.



E.W.Gilman



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Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 07:47:54 +0000

From: Michael Ravnitzky MikeRav[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]IX.NETCOM.COM

Subject: Military Technical Reports about Dialect(s)



DO YOU WANT A LIST OF MILITARY TECHNICAL REPORTS ON THE SUBJECT OF

DIALECT and DIALECTS?



You can get a list of [largely unpublished] military technical

reports on Dialect and related topics. Many of these reports have

been locked away for various bureaucratic reasons and have not been put

into the public domain.



Here is the subject keyword with which you can obtain a LIST of

several dozen military technical reports on Dialects and related

subjects from the Defense Technical Information Center, a government

agency. [see below]



KEYWORD:



Dialect

Dialects



IMPORTANT NOTE: Do not bother using the DTIC web site--in a nutshell,

it is worthless because the web site omits most of the two million

technical reports in the DTIC collection. [Most of these reports are

NOT, repeat NOT, repeat NOT in the NTIS collection, and have been

unavailable to the public.] Send a letter instead--you will get much

better results.



The fee is likely to be free or only a few bucks. You probably want to

include a statement in the letter such as *I agree to pay reasonable

fees associated with this request. Please notify me if the cost will

exceed $25.*, so that they won't delay the processing of the request.

Remember, they WILL try to dissuade you from asking for such a list. If

they send you a letter, and you do not respond, they will withdraw your

request and you will not get your information.



Here is a form letter to use for your request:



To: Defense Technical Information Center

Attn: DTIC-RSM [Kelly D. Akers, FOIA Manager]

8725 John J. Kingman Road, Suite 0944

Fort Belvoir, VA 22060-6128 USA

Phone: 703-767-9194



Dear Ms. Akers:



I request the following records under the provisions of the Freedom of

Information Act:



A computer generated technical report bibliography of reports on the

subject[s]/keyword[s] of:



________________ OR _________________ OR ________________ OR



_______________ OR _________________ OR _______________



Please send me this bibliography for all years in your computerized

index.



This is a request for DTIC records, please don't forward my request to

NTIS. Please include both classified and unclassified records in your

search. If any of the records are classified, please review them for

release, or the release of nonsensitive portions.



I am an individual, noncommercial requester and this request is not

being made for commercial purposes. [OR YOU MIGHT INSTEAD INDICATE

DIFFERENTLY IF YOU ARE A COMMERCIAL REQUESTER, OR AN EDUCATIONAL

OR

SCIENTIFIC INSTITUTION, OR A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE MEDIA] I also agree

to pay up to $25 for reasonable fees associated with this request.



Sincerely,



______________







Hope you find this a useful resource.

Michael Ravnitzky

MikeRav[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]ix.netcom.com



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Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 09:13:43 -0500

From: "Claudio R. Salvucci" salvucci[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]NETAXS.COM

Subject: Re: official lg



forth! We had a wonderful mock-debate in there today-- I "teach" the

subject every year now, finding that students are fascinated, and have

discovered that the real way to win converts is not to teach it at all

but to let them do it (obvious, I guess, but I had to try my way

first, as always). I figure that no socioloinguistics class should

turn out students who are unprepared to debate English-Only and

Ebonics in public.



I sincerely hope Peter Patrick does not intend the word "oppose" where he

writes "debate". There is no intrinsic reason why a linguist by definition

must oppose English-only or standard language pedagogy. It is perfectly

justifiable to work under the scientific notion that languages are

value-neutral with respect to each other, while still accepting that

certain languages/dialects have different social values.



The single greatest force of assimilation in this country is its language;

to not compel immigrants to learn English as my parents did, is to sentence

them to a lifetime of exclusion from the political and cultural life of

this nation.



-Claudio



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Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 09:38:40 -0500

From: "M. Lynne Murphy" 104LYN[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]MUSE.ARTS.WITS.AC.ZA

Subject: Re: official lg



From: "Claudio R. Salvucci" salvucci[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]NETAXS.COM

The single greatest force of assimilation in this country is its language;

to not compel immigrants to learn English as my parents did, is to sentence

them to a lifetime of exclusion from the political and cultural life of

this nation.





there's a weird ellipsis (weird in terms of supporting the

argument) here--

to not compel immigrants to learn english as my parents did (learn

english) is to sentence them...



but not...

to not compel immigrants to learn english as my parent were

(compelled to learn english)



note that without compulsion (i.e. a law) they did learn it. there

was compulsion in terms of socio-economic factors. those still exist-

-there aren't a heck of a lot of opportunities for non-english

speaking monolinguals (and perhaps too many for english-speaking

monolinguals!), so people are still compelled to learn english (and

do). i've never heard of anyone being denied access to english by

the government. so, what's the problem?



lynne



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