Date: Sun, 5 Mar 1995 08:07:00 EST
From: "Dennis.Preston" 22709MGR[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]MSU.EDU
Subject: Iowa dialects and loose meat
Loose meat sandwiches (and 'Maidrites) were unknown by those terms in the
Louisville area in the 40's and 50's. When I visited Southern Illinois
(regularly) as a boy and young man, I ate 'Maidrites' (never loose meat
sandwiches) in the area around Christopher, Benton, West City, etc...
In Louisville these were 'sloppy joes' and were made with a variety of
catsup-flavored sauces and ground beef.
Imagine my horror to discover that these abominations were called Bar-B-Cue
(or whatever spelling you like) sandwiches in Madison when I moved there to do
my Ph.D. work in the early 60's. I have encountered this sad use of the term
Bar-B-Cue in lots of northern areas (Chicago, Milwaukee, Buffalo, Detroit),
although, of course, never in African-American communities, where the term
Bar-B-Cue is reserved for the sense of slow-cooked meat. (I assume the use of
northern Bar-B-Cue to simply mean 'grill' is already well-known to readers of
this list. It has even permeated the New South, where I was invited to a
Bar-B-Cue recently and found only grilled items, although the sense of the
term for 'event' rather than foodstuffs has always been a little confusing.
Interestingly enough, these regional differences are not recorded in DARE,
although I reckon the files up in false barbecue land have some info.)
Dennis (clearly the [dInIs] Dennis) Preston
22709mgr[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]msu.edu changing (sadly) to
preston[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]pilot.msu.edu