Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 22:52:22 CDT From: "Donald M. Lance" Subject: Re: needs + p.p. The people that their house burned down. His grammar -- which I don't know how anybody understands him -- is really bad. (groping for an example here) It seems to me that both 'that' and 'which as unconnected relative pronouns is on the rise. As much a matter of popularity as historical change, I suspect. DMLance