Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 18:49:44 -0400 From: Brigid Williams Subject: "...and them..." In Shana Walton's missive about asking about people's mamas, I was struck by the use of the phrase "...and them..." In my native piedmont Virginia, "and them" can be used to designate a less-than-beloved son/daughter-in-law, as in "Phyllis and them are coming to dinner tonight. Guess I better get ready", delivered with a frown that signifies a wish that Phyllis would leave "them" (one person - the son-in-law) behind for once. In my family this phrase is used only with affection. In "how's your mama and them?" is the "and them" kindly meant? B. C. Williams