Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 09:10:59 -0400 From: Jesse T Sheidlower Subject: Re: off-the-point > Another term from New York City is "off-the- > point," for a sidewalk ball game that involves throwing a spaldeen at the > corner edge of a building. Does anyone remember that? If so, when? Where? > How was/is it played? An informant who was a notable fan of spaldeen-based games was familiar with the term, but not in the sense you describe. He says that "off- the-point" was a term used in various games to describe a throw that bounced directly off the corner (of a building, step, etc.), thus rocketing away unexpectedly. He says it was unquestionably a real term, but that it was never used as the name of a game. "Off-the-wall," on the other hand, was a real game, and involved throwing the ball at a wall and trying to catch it on the fly, with bases being earned based on the number of bounces, as Larry has described. Said informant grew up in Brooklyn in the 1940s-50s. Jesse Sheidlower Random House Reference