Date: Mon, 17 Jul 1995 16:34:48 -0500 From: Ditra Henry Subject: Re: oj trial On Fri, 14 Jul 1995 debaron[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]UIUC.EDU wrote: > Let me raise another question, since the oj one stirred a good discussion: > > My African American students for the past 2 semesters have been using the > term Ebonics to refer to what we most recently seem to be calling AAVE. I > confess that I haven't been keeping up, and the term was new to me. But I > also notice that the linguists I talk to in various groups do not use the > term. So, is this something coming from the popular side? Is it akin to > Black Athena talk, and ice people vs. sun people, or what? > > Dennis > > > > > --- > > Dennis Baron debaron[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE] > > Department of English office: 217-333-2392 > University of Illinois fax: 217-333-4321 > 608 South Wright Street home: 217-384-1683 > Urbana, Illinois 61801 > Dennis, I'm not sure all your students knwo about the article, but there was a Journal arlticle published a ferw years abcak maybe 1990 or 91 that did a pole in a Chiago Catholic University. Part of the discussin in the article was to get African Americans to refer to the way they speak in a more positive manner and to call it something different than its references in the past such ad Black English Vernacular in order to develop a more positive attitude about the language. I'm quite glad to see that your students are responding so positively. I am working on this effort at Northeastern Illinois Universityalos. I am a Graduate T. A. in the Linguistic program and I have been lecturing in the undegraduate lisguistic course when they do the sectiions on BAE(Black American English) my preerence. There seems to be a mitzvah going on when I give my presentation froma very positive point of view. I also plan to give this discussin at the Iinternationsl TESOL convention next spring. Is Black English Another Language? Ditra