End of ADS-L Digest - 2 Jul 1994 to 3 Jul 1994 ********************************************** There is one message totalling 20 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Double modals in Utah ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 3 Jul 1994 23:58:02 CDT From: "Donald M. Lance" Subject: Re: Double modals in Utah Re Salikoko Mufwene's question about 'dare' and 'need. -- These verbs, it seems to me, have somewhat different senses as "modals" and as regular verbs. Whether we have the regular verbs 'dare' and 'need' that are occasionally used as modals, or vice versa, depends on the type of bondage in one's theory. Contemporary speakers who use these verbs as modals would do so only in certain (formal) registers, so theories that ignore register (e.g., traditional grammar; strict structuralism; generative rules) have no way of providing a satisfying answer to Sali's question. Sali offered two options: "regular verbs with limited modal uses" and "modal verbs with idiosyncratic regular verb characteristics." The former. I don't feel a strong need to solve this "problem," because of the age of speakers who use 'dare' and 'need'as quasi-modals -- but it is an interesting one. DMLance