Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 18:18:45 -0500

From: Dan Goodman dsgood[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]VISI.COM

Subject: Hudson Valley

I've run into a couple of problems in looking up the development of my

native dialect (Hudson Valley). This is, of course, something which

would never happen to a professional linguist. :)

1. The original dialect study seems to have been conducted on the

assumption that "urban doesn't count". This is for a region which

contains two of the three oldest cities in New York State. And which

has had economic ties with New York City -- and, to a lesser extent,


2. The variety of Dutch most spoken in the Hudson Valley probably had

some differences from standard Dutch. Are there any written sources?

The nearest I've found is a study of "Jersey Dutch" -- not the same

area, and centuries later.

Dan Goodman


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