Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 18:49:44 -0400

From: Brigid Williams Brigidia[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]AOL.COM

Subject: "...and them..."

In Shana Walton's missive about asking about people's mamas, I was struck by

the use of the phrase "...and them..." In my native piedmont Virginia, "and

them" can be used to designate a less-than-beloved son/daughter-in-law, as in

"Phyllis and them are coming to dinner tonight. Guess I better get ready",

delivered with a frown that signifies a wish that Phyllis would leave "them"

(one person - the son-in-law) behind for once.

In my family this phrase is used only with affection.

In "how's your mama and them?" is the "and them" kindly meant?

B. C. Williams