Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 16:03:59 -0400 From: Jesse T Sheidlower Subject: Re: Bade, long and short > > I've been asked - > > >Is the pronunciation of bade (past tense of bid) controversial? . . . . Is > it > >a dialect issue, a class issue, or a thing indifferent? Is long a driving > >out short a? > > My answer is that > DARE is silent on this; has no entry for bid (v) or bade at all. Nor have I > heard of any such controversy. I suspect there's a modern spelling > pronunciation encroaching on a traditional one. > > But have I missed something? Is there patterned variation, or controversy? There is indeed something of a controversy about this. The older form is /baed/ (that is, with an ash, homophonic with _bad_ 'not good'). Older dictionaries (W2, Century) list only this pronuncation; Fowler 1926 and Evans 1957 specify it as well. I think that the pronunciation /beid/ (rhyming _made_) is quite common today, and is probably increasing in frequency. The /beid/ pronunciation is, I assume, a spelling pronunciation; usage conservatives regard it as an error. Jesse Sheidlower