End of ADS-L Digest - 31 Dec 1995 to 1 Jan 1996 *********************************************** There are 21 messages totalling 531 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. newcomer's warsh (2) 2. New Joiner Here (3) 3. Gumbo file' (7) 4. Frontier Doctors (fwd) -Reply (3) 5. Frontier Doctors (fwd) -Reply -Reply (2) 6. Frontier Doctors (fwd) 7. And The Winners Are... 8. "False Faces" (2) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 23:40:58 -0600 From: Dan Goodman Subject: newcomer's warsh > Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:45:51 +0800 > From: Russ McClay > Subject: New Joiner Here > > Just a note letting everyone know a new list member has appeared: me. > > Discovered ADS-L in an article in our China News, New Years Eve. > They printed the society's list of new words, and via the Internet > I found your site and archives. > > After reading through most of logs for 94/95 I decided to subscribe. > I've long been interested in slang and how English changes with the > times. My interest increased when I came Taiwan where I taught > English for the first couple of years of my now going-on-over- > 8-year stay. > > I'm 40+, born and raised in Southern California. Folks are from > Indiana. I attended college, but 11 years on the road as a > trucker decidedly influenced how I speak today (I somewhat > unfortunately use f***in' in front of a lot of words, which is > something I need to work on with my 2 1/2 year old daughter > around! She's growing up bilingual incidentally. My wife is > Chinese). > > My intention is to lurk. But before I get into that mode, thought > I'd throw a few things out there: > > A word I've nearly always mispronounced (probably not the right term) > is wash. I pronounce it: warsh, the r sound very soft. (Sorry not > familiar with the codes. And wouldn't know how to use them if I were.) > > Toilet: used to get a bit of the r in that too in younger days, but > it's nearly gone now. Besides, I use "head" these days; must be from > my boatbuilding days. > > Another is celestial. For some reason I've always slipped an r in > after the t. Though I've nearly cured that one. > > Being a newcomer and not a linguist I would imagine some of these have been > discussed before and represent known patterns. But I would like to hear > any comments. > > Finally, living overseas makes keeping up on all the current expressions > difficult The intrusive r (I think that's the correct term -- I'm an amateur myself) probably comes either from where you grew up or from where your parents grew up. My _guess_ would be that it's from Indiana (it's stereotypically Indianan). Keeping up with current expressions can be difficult even living in the US. I'm in Minneapolis, and a lot of the new terms start either in the East or the West. If you're not careful, you might find yourself distributing questionnaires for one of the professional linguists.... Dan Goodman dsg[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]maroon.tc.umn.edu