Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:45:51 +0800 From: Russ McClay Subject: New Joiner Here Just a note letting everyone know a new list member has appeared: me. Discovered ADS-L in an article in our China News, New Years Eve. They printed the society's list of new words, and via the Internet I found your site and archives. After reading through most of logs for 94/95 I decided to subscribe. I've long been interested in slang and how English changes with the times. My interest increased when I came Taiwan where I taught English for the first couple of years of my now going-on-over- 8-year stay. I'm 40+, born and raised in Southern California. Folks are from Indiana. I attended college, but 11 years on the road as a trucker decidedly influenced how I speak today (I somewhat unfortunately use f***in' in front of a lot of words, which is something I need to work on with my 2 1/2 year old daughter around! She's growing up bilingual incidentally. My wife is Chinese). My intention is to lurk. But before I get into that mode, thought I'd throw a few things out there: A word I've nearly always mispronounced (probably not the right term) is wash. I pronounce it: warsh, the r sound very soft. (Sorry not familiar with the codes. And wouldn't know how to use them if I were.) Toilet: used to get a bit of the r in that too in younger days, but it's nearly gone now. Besides, I use "head" these days; must be from my boatbuilding days. Another is celestial. For some reason I've always slipped an r in after the t. Though I've nearly cured that one. Being a newcomer and not a linguist I would imagine some of these have been discussed before and represent known patterns. But I would like to hear any comments. Finally, living overseas makes keeping up on all the current expressions difficult. One that piqued my interest a year or two ago is "dis" / "dissed". Believe it or not, in addition to many other kinds of music, I like rap. This is where I first heard it. It seems to mean "put down", and maybe derives from "dismissed". And two more: though I am a touch typist (about 60 wpm, 95% accuracy excluding numbers), I have what I consider the strange habit of not typing the "r" when I type the word "your". I've noticed this with others on the net. And lastly, the word "definitely". I see this word spelled as often definately as I do the correct way. Russ -- m c c l a y ................................................................... mcclay[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]