Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 22:15:15 -0500 From: "William H. Smith" Subject: 'and them' The discussion seems to have gotten away from "and thing", which collectivizes any sort of thing, at least according to Gonzales. Can "and them" apply to anything but people? My mother uses "'n'ose" ("and those"), as in "Aunt Mary 'n'ose", but I don't recall her using it for animals or other non-humans. Bill Smith Piedmont College wh5mith[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]