Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 12:53:27 -0800

From: Dan Moonhawk Alford dalford[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]S1.CSUHAYWARD.EDU

Subject: Re: out in left field



Has nobody thought of it from the point of view of little boys playing

baseball? It was always the worst player that was put out in left field,

someone who wouldn't be needed much. You just put that person out that

and forgot about 'im; you certainly didn't expect to hear or see anything

unusual from out in left field. This metaphor has consciousness implications.



On Tue, 23 Jan 1996, Larry Horn wrote:



To complete the file, underdetermined though the history may be, the following

citation should not go unmentioned:



A. M. Zwicky, P. H. Salus, R. I. Binnick & A. L. Vanek (eds.),

STUDIES OUT IN LEFT FIELD: DEFAMATORY ESSAYS PRESENTED TO JAMES D.

McCAWLEY ON THE OCCASION OF HIS 33rd OR 33th BIRTHDAY. Edmonton:

Linguistic Research, Inc., 1971. (Current Inquiry into Language &

4.) [Recently reissued.]

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The origin of the phrase is obscure. Paul Dickson's Baseball

Dictionary mentions the phrase, but hazards no opinion of its origin.

Christine Ammer's dictionary of cliches, "Have A Nice Day", offers

three theories gleaned from William Safire. Two deal with distance,

either to the left field wall or to the left fielder, and one claims

that "in the Chicago Cubs' old ballpark" a mental hospital was

located just beyond left field (this seems pretty far-fetched).

Ammer says the phrase has been in use since about 1950, but cites

only a 1974 example. These dates reflect our files in a general way;

our earliest citation comes from 1956 and shows the phrase either not

fixed in form yet, or a very un-baseballish author: in a review of

"Waiting for Godot" Estragon is described as "a fellow out on left

field". A couple of years later an unidentified speaker (perhaps

Jack Benny) is quoted as saying "My so-called Allen feud came

strictly out of left field". I expected better evidence, but there

was a long-established disinterest in sports lingo back in those

days. The phrase begins appearing with "in" as the usual preposition

in the 1970s.



E.W.Gilman