Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 11:53:00 PST
From: Ellen Fennell EMF[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]MSMAIL.WINROCK.ORG
Subject: Re: You guys
My St. Louis cousins used to offend our ears with the term "you guys." We
thought the gender inclusive "you all" or "y'all" much more acceptable.
By the way, isn't today Robert E. Lee's birthday?
To: Multiple recipients of list ADS-L
Subject: You guys
Date: Thursday, January 19, 1995 11:23AM
I grew up in a NY suburb evenly divided demographically into long time
residents, people who moved out from NYC, and people who moved in from the
Midwest (or elsewhere) to take jobs in NYC. Because of the different
represented, language variation was a common recess topic of discussion
mockery. Alongside "Which is right, soda or pop?" and "Say chocolate. Eeew,
THAT how you say it?" we also had disagreements about the status of "You
guys". Some of my female friends (I'd like to say it was the ones who said
instead of SODA, but I honestly don't remember.) were grievously offended at
uses of "you guys" addressing an all-female group. Others of us (me
were quite comfortable with this generic usage. This was c. 25 years ago.
Despite my parents' NYC background, I didn't encounter "youse" or variants
thereof until the summer before I entered college, when I had a job in the
city. Of course, my parents claim they moved to Westchester so I WOULDN'T
up talking like that!