Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 23:11:56 -0700 From: Rudy Troike Subject: Mea culpa: it is. My thanks to Seth Sklarey for coming up with a quote from Leo Rosten "The Joys of Yiddish", which clearly identifies the source of the word in . Also to E.W. Gilman, for correcting my erroneous recollection of "schluppy" (a lesson to check my sources!) as properly . A couple of questions for E. W. Gilman: what are the earliest citations on this, and is there a possibility that could be the source of rather than the putative Irish source in "mud"? I infer from the meanings of that means essentially someone who is a slob. Would this be a valid guess? --Rudy Troike (rtroike[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]