Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 01:39:14 -0700 From: Rudy Troike Subject: Re: More on warp speed The idea that "traditional grammarians" slavishly followed Latin grammar is part of a myth that Charles Fries promulgated, or perpetuated from his mentor Leonard -- a topic begging to be researched. They have been given a bad rap for years, going back to Bloomfield. The myth belongs in somewhat the same category as the 23 Eskimo words for "snow". I have an article about this in the Archibald Hill festschrift, if you want some details. Lindley Murray, the "father of school grammar", was forced to Latinize his grammar by school teachers, who were dissatisfied with his attempt to portray English in a more structuralist fashion, on its own terms. It is always a good idea to check your sources before attacking them. --Rudy Troike (rtroike[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]