Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 03:00:06 CST From: "Donald M. Lance" Subject: Re: ESL/forks to the right/pudding & pie? Was the original original "pudding and pie" or "pud 'n pie"? I can't remember the whole rhyme, but my aging memory tells me that I thought as a kid the rhyme had a vernacular phonological rendition of "pudding pie." I suspect that Abercrombie added Fitch to the firm some time ago, so the me-first principle applies. I'm glad Dennis thought of Haj's categories. DMLance