Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 10:50:01 -0500 From: Leo Horishny Subject: Re: jakes I don't have any citations, but I would be willing to imagine jakes started out as another slang reference to John. Isn't Jake a nickname for John? or is it a nickname for James? For that matter, if the term john is younger than jakes, then this whole baby is out with the privy water ;-) leo_horishny[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE] Rowrbazzle!