Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 23:26:41 -0500 From: Laurence Horn Subject: Re: Poker; Jew; Pimp; White House; Java; Johnny Cake; Salt River; at al. Beverly Flanagan writes, > On journey cake: If the term originated in New England, it would be > pronounced r-less, hence folk-shifted to "johnny." Since Philadelphia > was r-pronouncing, the newspaper doesn't see (or jokingly pretends not > to see?) that the new term has nothing to do with a man's name. DARE > must have this explanation, but I don't have it at hand. > I'm not sure which etymology Barry was earlier presupposing, nor do I have a DARE on me as I write, but my understanding has always been that "journey cake" was a second-order folk-etymology. While "johnny cake" derives--so I've read--from a Native American (Narragansett?) term local to Rhode Island that 'ought' to have come out something like "jonakin", "journey cake" is itself a motivated reconstruction of johnny cake. Not that different a history from, say, "Welsh rarebit" as a motivated reconstruction of the historically correct "Welsh rabbit", at least insofar as the "folk" involved in each case aren't really the FOLK per se, but a prescriptivist who claims to know the true story and of course botches it all up--or so I'd like to believe. Is this wrong? Is there (contra my sources) a real "journey cake" antedating the first "jo(h)nnycake"? Larry, writing from Connecticut (not too far from johnny cake country)