Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 09:38:27 -0600 From: "Kathleen M. O'Neill" Subject: Re: Chances and 2nd per -s Count me as one for taking "chances." >Incidentally, anyone have the answer on the -s for "pays" and "takes", >which all my ESL students correct to "pay" and "take" saying that >the proverb contains 2 grammatical errors. As a native south-sider of the Windy City, I'm well accustomed to hearing the -s "conjugation" for second person. Thus it sounds rather natural to me. Possibly the proverb was coined in an environment where that was grammatical. Examples: If ya gots to go, we can go. Ya knows what ya knows. etc. Incidentally, I have a suspicion that this is related to the plural-esque "yas" that is used with some modals and auxiliaries, where an -s conjugation is "ungrammatical." Note: I say "plural-esque" because it only looks like a plural: it doesn't have to refer to more than one person. Examples: Yas don't have to go if yas don't want to. Are yas sure about that? (read "dat") etc. Hey, look! Another thread! ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; ;Kathleen M. O'Neill ... Language Laboratory Technician I ; ;koneil1[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE] ... u55354[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE] ; ;:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::; ;University of Illinois at Chicago ... Language Laboratory ; ;703 South Morgan Street (M/C 042) ... Grant Hall, Room 311 ; ;Chicago, IL 60607-7025 ; ;312.996.8838 or 8836 ... 312.996.5501 FAX ; ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;