Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 17:06:39 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor Subject: Re: I before E > That is a really neat explanation, predicting e.g. why we spell "leisure" the > way we do, i.e. because some people pronounce it to rhyme with "measure". Un- > fortunately there are still exceptions: as far as I know nobody pronounces > "seizure" that way, so we should spell it (and the verb it derives from) with I'm great at extending rules. I extend the "c" to not just the letter "c" but to anything pronounced [s]. So "seizure" isn't an exception. But then you're left with "siege." > linguistic principle, the division of linguistic labor)--I never knew "weird" > wasn't pronounced everywhere with an [i]. I consider "weird" and "forfeit" in the same category -- both are ei instead of ie because both are pronounced [I] instead of [i]. But then there's "friend" -- an [I] word that is an exception. It's one of very, very few exceptions, though. Oops. Just thought of something. Do you yankees say [frInd] or do you have an [E] sound in it? To me the vowel in "friend" is the same as the vowel in "tin" and "ten" -- [I]. In any case, it's an exception to the ie/ei rule since I don't think anybody says [frind]. --Natalie (maynor[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]