Date: Mon, 12 Dec 1994 16:58:28 -0500 From: Donald Larmouth Subject: Re: Green Bay It's hard in this town not to get caught up in the collective giddiness that comes along with the Bears game--and that may be too polite a term for it. However, by Monday afternoon I'm usually back in my lonely position as a last- ditch Vikings fan (of course, I'm really a Bud Grant fan, and we'll not see his like again any time soon). However (to keep this a legitimate ADS-L exchange) it is also a time for some self-affirming pronunciations--one sees assorted versions of "Beat Da Bears" signs around town (often in bars, of which we have a great many), asserting the negative prestige of the apico-dental variants for the interdentals. (Note: I have never seen a "Beat De Bears" sign, a spelling which I think would be associated with AAVE by way of the Uncle Remus stories, and it wasn't that long ago that virtually the only African-Americans in Green Bay were football players or their families.) I did see a "Beat Duh Bears" sign once, but I think it was intended to be pejorative to the Bears fans, not a self-affirming form, since it included a cartoon of a very stupid-looking Bears fan--with a doubtless unintended but still striking resemblance to many Packer fans of a Sunday afternoon.