Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1993 22:31:44 CST From: "Donald M. Lance" Subject: Re: AAVE variation and ADS in Toronto There are "layers" of differences in AAVE beyond "urban" and "rural". When I was an undergraduate at Texas A&M, many of the kitchen employees spoke the Brazos Bottom dialect and others spoke the variety associated with the town of Bryan. I suspect there are lots of places in the U.S. where some of the old features of such dialects are still observable in even tenagers, in spite of what's going on in popular culture. I'd expect old differences to be found in Southwestern Spanish, as well as in all "ethnic" varieties of English ('ethnic' includes 'shades' of white) -- as Mike Linn's paper at ADS demonstrated very well. DMLance